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Progressives from blue states, and mentally ill wealthy southern liberals have already wrecked UNC-Chapel Hill & Duke here in North Carolina and a host of other southern universities. But nothing like clown show they've got going at Columbia, Yale, MIT and Pomona College. Most of these kids couldn't find Gaza on a map if you stuck a pistol in their ear, but hatred of the Jews is the latest thing, so lets call daddy to put more money on the ole debit card so we can get a tent for the Nazi Liberated Zone in the college square.

Anywho.......we southerners feel confident that as progressives flee the hellscapes of the liberal cities they've helped create, for the safety and cost effectiveness of gods country, they'll eventually ruin our our states too.

All the more reason to buy more ammo. Y'all have a great Tuesday.

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What most all commenters here miss while reveling in cementing their positions about the left is that young people are beginning to finally change the country with the first major decision of their lives, a college education. My nieces and nephews have all gone south to Florida, Georgia, North and South Carolina and will never return to the Northeast. Their quality of life is far superior in the south both economically and socially. The values of respect, kindness and helping your neighbor still thrives in the South and Midwest. Their northern upbringing living in the real diversity and inclusion, not the socially engineered one being manufactured now, better matches the values you find in the south. Respect and loving kindness first and foremost. I hope our northern migration changes the demographics of our country for the better. The more people in the middle, both figuratively and literally, with a value system they can articulate by word and deed, the better.

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It's nice to think so, but when you consider what blue-state transplants have done to the states they fled to, I'm not convinced. How long will it be before these students start demanding the same Leftist policies that wrecked the colleges they're rejecting?

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Agreed. As someone who was born and raised in the rural Southwest, I've seen my beloved home being ruined by the Elitist Urban Refugee Virus all my life.

The elitist urban refugees come and drive up our property values to the point that locals can't afford housing near our families anymore. They trash up their cities and then come here to trash up our homes with their leftist laws and big government dependencies that ruined the places they came from. They look at us as if we are either "so quaint" or little more than talking dogs that should be brought to heel. They don't know what freedom is, and they've never taken the responsibility to earn it.

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I was just down in Texas visiting my best friend. Saw hundreds of housing developments under construction. All of the homes cost a quarter million or more.

Where are all these people coming from? The U.S. birth rate is already below replacement levels and dropping. If they are coming from the coasts, what is happening to the areas they are leaving behind?

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I've wondered that, too. I'm suspecting foreigners are are buying up the coasts, particularly the Chinese buying up and controlling agendas in California.

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the Chinese are buying up farmland all across the country too. Interestingly especially near and around military installations. Dr Phil did a piece on this. But I already knew that the Chinese were buying up large tracts of land in OK and elsewhere supposedly to grow marijuana in anticipation of federal legalization so it could be internationally traded.

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When my best friend and her husband sold their house in NJ, one of their prospective real estate agents was all excited about selling their home to Chinese investors. They said NO to that really fast.

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In greater Dallas area there is a huge influx of Indians (South Asian variety.)

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Clarification:

Right winger from blue state moving to red state is a "refugee".

Left winger from blue state moving to red state is an "invader".

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I recently read somewhere that the migration from California to Texas is actually making Texas "Redder" precisely because the new Texans know exactly why they are fleeing. I hope that is true.

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For Texas I hope that is true. In Arizona it is not. The top 6 states that people move from are 1. California 2. Washington 3. Texas 4. Colorado 5. Oregon. 6. Illinois

Arizona has been ruined.

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Having been there very recently, I would guess that it's not true. The new arrivals are perturbed by the very existence of the unapologetic Evangelical Christianity. They probably vote blue reflexively, in hopes of making it disappear (even though it won't). As a result, they're inviting in the same old Woke ideology that destroyed the places they fled from.

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That is discouraging. We need the Latinos. 👍

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Don't you mean Latines? Sorry, I couldn't resist.

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Hi Celia-- having also recently been in TX- I can report a different experience (but TX is large, like the proverbial elephant described by the 5 blind men) so we are likely both correct! what I ran into was my relatives (from PA, but settled down in TX about 30 yrs. ago) They reported that their new next door neighbors moved in from CA, w/ a bunch of kids. The father told my cousin's (pretty red) hubby- (when discussing bringing Cali problems to TX) "don't worry, I'm probably way more conservative than you!"

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Would like to "idealistically" agree w RMac- culture works in cycles and I am hopeful that attending school, working, and plain ole living in the South will be so refreshing and attractive compared to the experience in some of the Blue States- the tides will turn and the numbers will be large enough to both ignore and perhaps push back when necessary on the insanity of Woke.

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I agree but I think this is a different migration we are all missing by seeing the forest for the trees. My nieces and nephews come from the working class middle.

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May I add: one is a trauma nurse, one was a nun who now works with teens, one is a mid-level executive, one is a meteorologist, one is in sales, one is a psychologist working with veterans and my nephew in university to be a surgical nurse. My daughter owns and operates a center for autism employing 120 people and my son is a pilot (community college only). Makes me proud to list this!

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Wow, RMac, you must be a very proud parent and Aunt or Uncle. Amazing young people in your family!

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Awww, thank you, but I think they are representative of most Americans. Both my parents were smart, had common sense and a deep sense of right and wrong though were not educated beyond 9th grade (my father) and high school (my mother). My maternal grandparents were successful merchants. My paternal grandparents ran away from Italy and were a barber and mother of 13 children. They all worked hard. I am the eldest and went to community college after fighting with my parents to go to university (an economic and cultural issue); my sister followed in my mother's footsteps but both were successful bookkeepers/accountants, as is my little sister who completed college over the years; my parents sent my brother to college (budgeting their money for him). That's the reality of most people in America, I think.

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Yes

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The invasive species problem.

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I live in a nice little community in San Diego that used to be red and "run" by the Navy (with 2 Navy bases here, the CO's had lots of influence). Now, we have been inundated by people who love the peace and beauty of our town, but want to transform it into the communities they came from. Now we are slowly turning lavender and social media is hate-filled and obnoxious. We have groups that call themselves "Speak Easy" because you can speak your mind in them and all are committed to civility. I hope those moving to the South won't have the same effect there.

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I love your observation. The condition of San Diego seems to be entwined with what's going on in California in general, which is difficult. Turning lavender (great color) might not be so bad. Social media and the crushing of civility by the media is very disturbing and must be vehemently opposed and stopped by all of us. San Diego was one of my all-time favorites when I lived in California (but that was the 80s!).

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There definitely pathogens

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Witty.

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The blue fungus that invades red states is spreading and the usual byproducts of this fungus have sprouted: Crime, higher taxes, and general unfriendliness.

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Prime example: Vermont, the state that’s Calvin Coolidge was born in but is now most famous for Bernie Sanders (how come he’s never referred to by his initials?)

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He isn't?

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I agree. I live in Florida and is scary to think what they will do here next elections. I am a retired senior. There is nowhere to go.

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I know! I have an extremely blue friend who relocated down there a few years ago. She's very political and said "yes DeSantis is horrible, but we're going to change things when his term runs out!"

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We southerners are fearful that people are bringing their politics with them. Just yesterday a friend was minding her own business at the local library when a lib transplant acquaintance approached her and began railing about “white men”.

I’m not sure why she chose to live here except the southern hospitality and the low levels of crime.

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Don't New York my Florida!

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Don't California my Texas!

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It has a name: Californication!

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Totally!

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Yes, I completely understand. We must draw people out a little bit when making a sweeping generalized comment like that. I can try to infer what that woman meant but what exactly does she mean? No idea. Maybe it's as simple as "what do you mean?" That's what a migration does. As a young child growing up in the Bronx, NY, that melding of people always resulted in bettering us as humans. The outcome was almost always lifting people up. No, it wasn't always pretty or easy. The trouble came from those who opposed the melding and tried to thwart it at every possible turn. You only need to look at children in pre-school and kindergarten to see this at work. I can tell you from firsthand experience with socially engineered integration in elementary school that left to ourselves children will get along and work out their differences naturally (and it won't be around color of skin). I brought home students for lunch; they were all just new friends to me. The problems arise when adults interfere with their own biases.

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Your friend should have told the transplant to go back to where she came from (that's an a-okay saying now, used frequently by college Leftists).

The Leftists who are fleeing crime are huge hypocrites. They voted for the policies that made their blue homes unsafe. They don't deserve to move to safe places, fully intending to vote for the same policies.

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We have lived in the South for 40 years and my fear has always been that people from the North will discover what a nice place it can be and move here.

Don’t get me wrong, ever place has issues but living here the problems are easy to recognize and mostly manageable.

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Whenever I see someone getting into their car with a California license I wish I had the courage to ask them if they left their politics in CA. I live in a southern state too.

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I am a Californian who moved to Austin,Texas in 2013 to escape California and then in 2021 to Florida, where I reside now, to escape Austin. lol. I can tell you that many Californians who move east and south do so bc they hate California politics. Unfortunately, they have been so imbued with a California lifestyle that they unwittingly bring those politics with them.

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Some people can never connect the dots.

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Mike Petrik...You took the words right out of my mouth. I never ceased to be amazed at the lack of some folks ability to connect the dots.

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I'm a Texan and I worry about the same thing. Many of these people left blue states because of high taxes, disastrous left policies and crime. Are they going to turn Texas into the far left shithole they are trying to get away from?

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I have faith in both native Texans, as well as those who’ve relocated and assimilated with Texan culture and attitude, not allowing that to happen. I love the fact that Texas is wildly independent and fiercely defensive of its freedoms in almost every respect.

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I have a friend who was working a Texan polling station. I woman came in to vote and said, "I'm from California and we are going to turn this state blue."

I told my friend, that is when I would have taken off my voting proctor badge and said, "I quit!" and then told the woman, "You left California because it is Democrat run shithole and now you proudly proclaim you want to turn Texas into a Democrat shithole. Are you out of your fucking mind?"

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The main reason I worry for Texas is because the Democratic party has flat out said they are doing everything they can to turn Texas blue. I think they thought it would be quicker because they equated Brown People with Democrats and figured the latino/x/e's would do the work. So it would not surprise me if they were doing their level best to keep those transplants from Cali and such as blue as possible

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I don’t think you should worry too much. I’m a native Texan who’s lived in this state for seven decades. Texas has weathered a number of waves of migration and it’s my observation that we always change newcomers and not the other way around. Texas forever!

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The answer most certainly is YES in addition to the high cost of living and our awful crook of a governor. We’ve had it. Should be in Mexico next month. Can’t wait!

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We’re gonna miss you but we will look forward to a good visit down there🥰

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Me too!

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I understand!

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The academy’s pied-piper hold on the minds of the future elite.... its seductive virtue-signalling mentality has taken hold in most graduate-entry professional walks of life. And an Academia-Media Complex - a feedback loop between an overwhelmingly left-wing academy and a largely left-wing MSM – has kept this shit-show on the road for 50+ years. https://grahamcunningham.substack.com/p/invasion-of-the-virtue-signallers

The sheep dip has been an especially powerful brew in the humanities and social sciences

If the defenders of ‘traditional values’ (presumably a re-invigorated GOP) ever did really get their act together (and the votes to back it), what kind of fight-back could they mount? They have left it late. It would need to be an unashamedly sledgehammer legislative approach and pursued with Machiavellian sleight of hand. It might include:

- ending the decades-long absurdity of left wing proselytising organisations (including large parts of higher education) being actually funded by the taxpayer.

- a clear-out of the kind of senior academics who have so cravenly caved in to spoilt-brat ‘radicalism’.

- a complete clear-out of the multi-billion ‘diversity’ bureaucracy racket.

- a complete overhaul of teacher training (that has long been allowed to become a training ground in progressive ideology).

- an end to public sector security-of-tenure unrelated to performance.

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The young people are not listening to us. They no longer look up. They are looking across. If we do not understand that, nothing will change until they change it, and they most certainly will.

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Listening is not young people's strong suit....never has been. My comment was addressed to what conservative leaders should be thinking on (if they ever get real political power again which I am a pessimist about). Too much caring - post 1960s - about the usually shallow opinions of young people is part of what got us in this mess in the first place.

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True, but we were taught to value our elders and now young people look at the boomer generation with disdain and even disgust. This is what the political parties, and yourself, are missing. Too much caring never hurt anyone. It's how you care and the quality of it. As in anything.

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My use of the word 'caring' was in a quite different sense to the one you are referring to here..... which I would call 'nurturing'.

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You left out our food. 😬

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Arggghhh, huge oversight Evans W!!! Sorry!! Of course, the beautiful FOOOD!!

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My hope is that, since these are young people going into college, they may not be fully indoctrinated yet. It’s the 20 - 50 year olds from progressive states, who graduated from progressive universities, voted for progressive policies/politicians and don’t like the blue state mess they created (and don’t realize that they are the problem) who are coming to wreck your states.

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They start getting indoctrinated in elementary school! Unfortunately!!

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And your nieces and nephews will vote blue and destroy the south. By the way, the south is already diverse. People don't need the wisdom from the north to make a change.

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JenJen, your observation is astoundingly astute. Not.

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go ahead and ask them who they're voting for in November and for local elections.

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Your assumptions are like all assumptions.

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ask them

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I do not think that the South and the Midwest are comparable. I am a Southerner by birth and lived in the deep South until my early 30's. I live in the Midwest now but the positives noted regarding the South are not nearly as prevalent in the Midwest.

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There was a recent article in the WSJ about people buying gold bars (at Costco of all places) as an investment. A lot of the commenters wrote “three days, I invest in lead and brass.” It took me a minute to get it, but I definitely agree those less precious metals are nevertheless worthy commodities. It’s just a shame I lost all my firearms in a boating accident! They’re sitting at the bottom of an extremely deep lake, and to make things worse, I forgot which lake!

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I've got about 160 questions for you about losing all your firearms in a boating accident, but I have to get to work.

Have a great day, get to the next gun show and stay off the water. Cheers.

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It’s kind of a trope. When talking to anyone you don’t know, you tell them you lost all your guns in a tragic boating accident 😉 I mean, of course I really lost mine in a boating accident, though, if anyone I don’t know is reading this.

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LOL

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I have a lot friends that lost their firearms that way.

God and no less than a 1000 rounds

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I’m working furiously on inventing life preservers for guns and ammo. Find a need and fill it!

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A submersible with a metal detector. Just a thought????

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Why didn’t I think of that? Now if I can remember the lake in which they all plunged…

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That is difficult, they all look alike.

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What!? Many of my friends and I have experienced the same tragedy. You’d think a bunch of dumb rednecks would know better!

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Gold is so dumb. By the time you actually need it you will have to liquidate at a massive loss.

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It’s just a form of insurance, something you’ll only need when everything goes to shit. Kind of like a gun. Think of how much we spend on homeowners and auto insurance.

Thinking of gold as an investment is foolish, I agree. But it is a good hedge, and doesn’t lose 2-3% of its value every year (or 4-5% under democrat administrations) like the dolllar.

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This is why gold bars are not the way to go, they are not very fungible. Coins are better.

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China seems to love it.

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Gold is dumb as a crisis currency for single investors looking to preserve wealth and liquidity in an emergency, because its value collapses during an emergency.

It's not dumb for governments to buy as a currency basis, particularly when your self-destructive enemies are doubling down on indebting their children to fake economic growth.

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'particularly when your self-destructive enemies are doubling down on indebting their children to fake economic growth.'

Can you hear that? It's the sound of the printing press...ink and paper.

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I have always thought high percent silver coins would be better for real time barter and commerce on the ground in an emergency. I can't afford gold anyway, so this last bank collapse, I took out a chunk of my tiny savings and bought some silver coins.

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I need another firearm, one. Second, I need to buy more ammo.

Thank you and have a good day.

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Stereotypes die hard especially for those with hardened hearts and limited ability or desire to truly engage with those who look or speak differently than they do. The south ( and Midwest) are changing from fly over to fly into country... for lots of reasons. And southern hospitality and Midwestern friendliness are two big reasons.

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You don't buy gold bars you buy it on the markets. That way yiu can liquidate it much faster. When the shit hits the fan you think you're gonna be able to barter with a bar of gold? A can of beans will be worth more. Don't these people watch walking dead or any other apocalyptic Show/Movie? Shit go watch book of Eli. The Bible was the ultimate worth 🤣. God I love that movie. Oldman and Washington two of my favorites.

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When Y2K was a worry, I pondered that the best possible investment would be cartons of cigarettes. Compact, light, easily divided into smaller units, and something that a nicotine addict will give you just about anything for.

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Cigarettes, booze and bullets.

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Yes cigs and booze lol

Booze has so many purposes. Drinking, weapon and Anesthetic haha

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Anesthetic.

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Thank you 👍🏼

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And don't forget coffee and chocolate. I can imagine doing damage for a really good chocolate bar and I know many who would do the same for coffee. Oh boy, someone should plan a post apocalypse starbucks.......

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Coffee will be hard. It doesn't grow here and really doesn't keep well. Have you ever tried the chickory crap? Chocolate OTOH lasts a lo-o-o-ong time. I actually do have a stockpile of it.

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Not a coffee drinker myself, but I did buy freeze dried intstant coffee packets for hubby which according to bb date keep for three years and he says are actually not that bad tasting. I would assume that storing the boxes of packets in a larger airtight container in a cool place would extend the expiration date by at least a year or two. Not the same as fresh roasted bean, but yeah eventually even the freeze dried would run out, so maybe southern states with seaports would establish a coffee trade route to central and south america eventually. I can imagine there being a big push for that one!

Probably shouldn't tell me where you live, cuz if I run out of chocolate, I might show up at your door!

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I learned from video games. So I have been sinking all of cash into bottle caps.

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Bold of you to assume that "the markets" would function if there actually was a catastrophic situation - the market would likely be "people who I can personally talk to who I don't think will steal my gold"

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Ahhhhh…yes…Evans. We here in rural Montana and Northern California heed your advice and continue to load our gun safes with ammo. Told the kids and grandkids to come to the ranch any way they can get here when all Hell breaks loose. Friends too.

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Old saying, never enough ammo!

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Why would an influx of progressives and liberals, the majority of whom support gun control and most likely don't even own a gun, be a reason to buy more ammo? Or is "buy more ammo" always the answer Y'all?

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Buy more ammo is always the correct answer. Just sayin….

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Can't speak for others, but since I live in a very woke very blue section of a very blue state, I have a gun for protection against all the druggies and criminals the progressive overlords around here refuse to arrest, incarcerate or even attempt to control. All this shit is legal now and it's pretty bad. That is what many liberal woke folks will bring with them, a very high, self- destructive tolerance for absolute bullshit. I am not painting all liberals with the same brush. I am Independent myself. But there are enough of the crazy progressive left in charge these days and too many of the old school liberals that will just go along, even if they don't agree, that it is a real problem and can change the flavor of an area quite quickly. It's happened here in other parts of the state that were not so blue or woke a decade ago, but after liberal migrations the disparities in values became glaringly evident, especially during covd.

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Why aren’t university administrations implementing and enforcing strict rules? Violations should result in suspension, expulsion, and revocation of student visas. Imagine substituting ‘gay,’ ‘black,’ ‘Muslim,’ or ‘trans’ for “Jew”, “Israel”, or “Zionist” — discipline works be immediate. Instead we have anarchy.

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Richard, because THE university administrator + professors ALL believe the antisemitic bullshit … they either graduated from those Ivy League universities OR teach at them!

Their “solidarity” with the “mostly peaceful protestors” is the reason we have all these thug / terrorist students!

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Muslim agitators were primed and ready to go. How is it possible that there was spontaneous combustion on October 8 at universities and cities around the country protesting against Israel? The 31 student organizations at Harvard who signed the letter blaming Israel for Oct 7 all had the name Muslim or Palestine in them. Then, because of the horrific DEI craziness, intersectionality with BLM and others created the groundswell.

Just as with Black Lives Matter protests and police stepping aside as rioters ruined cities, so are universities today. We live in the United States of America, where the rule of law is supposed to prevail . The safety of our citizens is the governments first mission. Shame, shame, shame…

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Look at how they all have the same top of the line tents ready to go, flags, head-rags, etc. Tides Foundation and other Islamist orgs are funding this.

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Absolutely agree. What needs to come out more publicly is how many BLM leaders were and are in bed with the Nation of Islam group here in the states which is a known black supremacy hate group which openly blames Jews for being owners of the slave ships, etc. So the antisemitism and radical Islamic ideology was already deeply embedded in BLM way before they stepped up to organize the pro Hamas/palestine protests. I suspect BLM leadership was in on this from the beginning.

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Absolutely!

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I think you need to stock up on straight jackets also.

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It’s “straitjacket,” named I believe after the country singer George 😉

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I stand corrected, 😂😂😂😂

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Just picture him drooling in a padded cell, an acoustic guitar on his lap while he sports his black Stetson and a rhinestone-studded Straitjacket, mumbling about his Texas-dwelling former paramours 😂

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I’ll take that under advisement.

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Some Islamist organization is clearly providing the tents for them. At many of the [glorified homeless] encampments, the tents are all exactly the same. These communist actions are being funded by groups like the Tides Foundation, and these dirtbag college students are their useful idiots.

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I don't know if it's hatred of Jews. I think it's anger at Israel. Unlike our editors here at TFP, we understand there is a difference. A rather large one.

I read today that Humboldt State in upstate California is closing campus for a couple days. I thought all anyone did up there was grow weed. And as long as they don't do violence or encourage violence, I'm actually happy to see young people caring about something other than Tik Tok and XBox. They don't care about their privacy, but they still can care about something. I'd be happy to see young people, self-organizing, supporting Trump. Or RFK. Or....pick a topic or issue. At least their brains are still working. We may not always agree on how well they're working, but I'll take it as a start.

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Evans, they are neither liberal nor are they progressive.

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That is the worry….

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I was here to say just that. These are the kids of the very people who created those hellscapes. Their own families are the ones that poured money into these institutions while feeling worldly and sophisticated. Now they see the value of the old American ways after all, and have the means to just select the state where they’d like to attend, and boom magic!

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How have UNC and Duke been wrecked?

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UNC is requiring all students to take a class in DEI/CRT. That tells you all you need to know.

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Lol. There is no "official policy" of antiSemitism. You probably believe in "systemic racism" too, don't you?

Sorry. When the phrase "Free Gaza" or "Ceasefire Now" is accussed /attacked as being antisemitic, a long article with opinion/conjecture isn't cutting it.

Hurt Fee-fees? Remove commencement speaker.

Hurt Fee-fees? Send in riot police to arrest people exercising their free speech/sit-in.

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"Bari argued that the Jews depend on the state of the free world."

And yet she supports anything and everything to Get Trump. Zero appreciation for the Abraham Accords. Zero criticisms of the abuse of law. Zero journalistic investigation into the myriad crimes of our sitting president. Israel's very existence is in peril and she'll still choose death for Jews over a Trump president. Utter, indefensible madness.

Zero integrity when it comes to protecting the rights of your enemies, which are the only rights you actually believe in.

Once Democrats get away with corrupt elections, censorship, jailing opponents, and inequality under the law, Jews and Israel will be next. You know that now. You cannot refuse to defend Trump, and think you will save the free world later.

Those Yale students are tomorrow's leaders, they're trained to hate you, and you continue supporting their trainers.

Remember, Jews are oppressors because they're successful. The entire moral structure of the Democrats is built upon justifications for categorical condemnations. You cannot support Democrats without supporting antisemitism.

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You have a point , as loathsome as the current antisemitism is where was the protests when Trump supporters were attacked?

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Left-wing people do not care about injustice. They care about the tribe.

Principles are a right-wing concept. Literally.

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Occupy > Keystone > BLM > Antifa > Hamas/Palestinian. Same people in different costumes moving from one well funded and well organized socialist action to the next. If you look at their signs, you’ll see the same communist/socialist groups backing all of them - DSA, etc. If the FBI wanted to shut them down, they could do it in a week.

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What are you talking about? Bari (and the rest of the Free Press) has consistently and forcefully criticized Biden and his policies on countless issues. In your simpleton, binary world, if you're not a Trumper, you're a Dem and a Biden lover. How silly. How boring. How wrong.

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We got two jokes from Nellie about the Bidens having cocaine in the White House and then we moved on like it was no big deal. That's one example of many. I've read nearly every article in this publication since they began as Common Sense.

Now they're cheering on unprecedented fines of hundreds of millions of dollars and a nakedly corrupt criminal trial specifically timed for the election season. If you're trying to pretend this isn't abusing the law for election campaigns, you are a corrupt, lying sack of crap.

I'm not a "Trumper" btw, I consider it a bigoted slur, and I'm undecided for 2024. Stop projecting your own simplistic propaganda on me.

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Love it. Calling me a "corrupt, lying sack of crap" for arguments I've never made. Sweet. I do appreciate your offense being called a "Trumper" as a "bigoted slur". Beautiful characterization. Forgive me.

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Well said Anthony

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Bari Weiss is like many modern day "liberals"... she doesn't have the courage to pull the curtain back far enough and realize that she has been supporting the downfall of the United States for decades.

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People skipping Ivy Colleges and looking elsewhere for education is normal response to ballooning cost of education. Sure having degree from Ivy opens many doors, but at same time in many cases settles people with major debt that would take them even with well paid jobs many years (in some cases even several decades) to pay off. Who in the right mind wants to be in debt for something you can get cheaper elsewhere ?

The more people start shopping around, going to state schools and doing trades and avoiding overpriced degrees the better. Our Higer industrial complex is cancer on our education system, colleges charge top $ for brainwashing and selling worthless degrees.

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Don't worry about the cost. Biden will foot the bill. At this point I think the tab is nearing 350 billion in his unconstitutional student loan forgiveness program. I read that 750,000 recipients had household incomes of around $300,000.

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Biden is doing nothing but buying votes…yes he’s that corrupt and immoral. He also depleted the Strategic Petroleum Reserve to buy votes with lower oil prices during the midterms. Say what you will about Trump, he’s no where near as craven and feckless.

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Oh he’s about to deplete even more oil with war all around us.

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Buy-dem votes.

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Maybe Trump should start calling him Bribin' Biden or something like that.

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Very Apt!

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Having dealt with this for so many years, a degree from a top school opens the door once. Then your performance and output is the key factor. After that, if you are good, doesn't matter as you will be in demand.

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And if you're not good but you check the appropriate box, you're hired!

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"Colleges charge top dollar for brainwashing and selling worthless degrees." I couldn't agree more. It wasn't until I looked into the origins of education that I realized, "wait, that's exactly what school is for! It has no purpose BUT to brainwash its citizens to serve the state."

When we realize this, we become aware to why exactly education is a failure.

https://unorthodoxy.substack.com/p/origins-of-modern-education

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Hogwash. Sure, the Ivy League school appear to be headed in that direction, but most reputable schools are there to educate, not brainwash. And last I heard, a STEM degree is far from worthless.

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My tiny anecdotal experience in the 90's, FSU was not at ALL concerned with educating me. Me educating myself? Sure I could do that. But most of my 'teachers' did not teach. Heck, half of them were still students.

Mind you, my CC experiences were much better.

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Go Noles!

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Top 1% in the USA is still approximately 3.3 million people. That’s a lot of people that can afford to send their kids to college without too much of a problem. Add in all the foreign born students (my daughters art school is full of very rich Asian students) and there is no need for universities to change their ways.

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I think that's true for some people, but as one lady states, it was more expensive to send her daughter to the University of Miami... I think some of these families are wealthy enough that the money part doesn't really matter to them. I think some of these kids are mostly driven by college "tourism" - these Southern schools are expensive but have great amenities and are fun. Some are going to Southern schools because they're cheaper, and some are going because they can't get into Ivy League. One thing I like about this story is they have multiple students explaining their reasoning - interesting stuff!

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Elon isn't cheap.. 64K a year.

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Duke: $64k

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Oops went up. 0ver $65 for 23-24.

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It’s not just IVy League schools. Out of state tuition is ridiculously high as well (UC Boulder is pushing $65,000).

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When is someone going to admit we have a mob problem in the United States? The number of Palestinian affinity groups appears to outnumber Dunkin' Donuts. Thirdly, wear a mask or otherwise cover your face and don all black and you're up to no good, you're removed from the streets, no questions asked. Ditto when you establish "autonomous" zones on private and public property, asserting not your equality but your primacy over everyone else. If you don't think people are sorely sick of being pushed around by brats in kiffeyehs you'd be dead wrong. A nation has to do certain things to survive. And sometimes that means keeping certain elements out. One of the recurring features in Montaigne's travel guide was the walls and gates surrounding European cities, at which he had to present his papers to get inside. The walls kept bandits and attackers out. In not keeping out either, we're going the way of Rome. Fifty years ago, the mobs would have found themselves back in the Middle East. The malign combination of fifth column bullying everywhere and deliberately neutered policing can ultimately tip civil life to the point where you don't get it back.

James Madison feared that "mobs," factions, would ruin the federation: In No. 10: "Very numerous assemblies, of whatever characters composed, passion never fails to wrest the sceptre from reason."

Then you have the spate of books and ubiquity of discussion (NPR Terry Gross, for example) to the effect of golly, the U.S. Constitution meant well ( not that they're condescending), but it's really pretty lousy. They're going after the electoral college, with shovels, forgetting the power of the states and the fact that each state has a vote. They're selectively quoting Madison. These things must be answered. Ditto the First Amendment, which NPR's head describes as "tricky." It's a full court press.

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What's going on with young people makes my head spin. All these prep school brats who got into the ivies mixing with Muslim provocateurs and BLM alums to create chaos on our college campuses and beyond, constituting a real threat both to Jews and to our cities.

And then there's what's happening on Tybee Island -- the brawls and complete doffing of civilized restraints by over 100,000 crammed onto a beach. It's as though everywhere all the creatures of the id are out in force doing what ids do.

There's always been a gap between 70-year-olds and the young. But the vicious acting-out we've seen lately is something else.

There's nothing for it but to paint the back porch, spackle the crack over my fireplace, and vote.

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I've not heard/read about Tybee Island.

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Search Orange Crush.

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Yes, of course, that would be the smarter search; otherwise, you'd end up with starfish and the fort.

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🤣

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Google it. Of course The New York Post had a field day with it, but other outlets covered the annual spring break with its fights and detritus.

Essentially a mob.

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We need a newspaper or news source to publish all the things that are not published-- that's how we meant it.

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i've found the daily mail is the best aggregate source of that. it's part breaking news, part celebrity gossip, part "news of the weird" all rolled up into one to keep your finger on the pulse. it also tends to run a tad conservative, too. (i've noticed they post a lot of the FP articles for what its worth like the trans-kid whistleblower, NPR expose, et al.) you just kind of scan through it and read what you want or not. sometimes, the headlines for articles is enough to tell you what you need to know. granted, some of what they post is hogwash, but for the most part, you can tell the nonsense headlines and most of what they publish i've been able to cross-check with other publications i trust. however, daily mail is the BEST when there is a breaking incident happening. all the legacy media are slow to report anything, but click on the mail and they will tell you the who/what/why/when and then update as more info comes in.

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I get much of my news from UK Telegraph and Times. Daily Mail is a guilty pleasure. Tina Brown (editor, Tatler, Vanity Fair, New Yorker) said she reads the Mail every morning. That's something isn't it? Getting our news from another country.

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Me neither.

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B. You must have a super impressive porch by now!

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Haha! Three badly applied coats.

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We don't have a mob problem. We have an Islamist problem.

Hamas and other terror groups have instructed their sympathizers to disrupt Western countries through protests and media. These are the equivalent of terrorism. It's just the beginning.

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I agree we have a serious Islamist problem and I think we do also have a collective, evolutionarily encoded mob problem, within the human species in general. Leaders throughout the ages have learned how to manipulate this mob tendency and rile up the masses for either nefarious or righteous purposes since like forever. The BLM/Hamas leaders/mobs are just the latest incarnation. Rock concerts come to mind as another illustration of our inherent tendency to mobdom.

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Susan, I hear you, but it’s important to remember the Biden Regime NEEDS THESE antisemitic, anti America VOTES! So don’t expect any drastic steps to be taken to “disperse the mobs”!

Did you hear Biden just yesterday? Playing BOTH sides (JUST LIKE THE LEFT ACCUSED TRUMP OF DOING!)!

Biden said he condemns antisemitic protest, AND condemns those who don’t understand Palestinians! Duh??!!

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Pretty sure the Supreme Court, etc. was so fearful of the democrat mobs that they refused to consider whether there was sufficient evidence to investigate whether the 2020 election had more than a modicum of cheating.

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We have a Mob problem that was purposely created by a specific party. So it is going to be VERY hard to get rid of them.

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Democrats, or whatever they now are, are gaming mobs, "marches," ie Poland, if the next election doesn't go their way. People forget, conveniently, that cities in particular were terrified of riots in the event the last election had not gone their way. These are the people worried about "democracy."

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In regard the RFK Jr. taking more votes from Trump than from Biden; The Marist poll is irrelevant as it provides no insight as to which states the votes are cast. It’s not a ‘national’ election, it’s fifty different state elections. Very lazy reporting on TFP’s part. Be better.

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John413, don’t expect Oliver Weisman to “do better” because he is clearly a flaming WOKE Progressive Democrat with Stage 4 Trump Derangement Syndrome!

I’m a huge fan if Bari Weiss, and I’ve been a contributor since The Free Press was Common Sense!

WHY she (or whomever) hired Weisman is beyond me?! EVERY opportunity he gets, or he makes one, he disparages Trump, which in turn disparages ALL of Trump supporters!

The ironic thing now, he’s disparaging MANY folks who are leaving the Biden Regime bandwagon!

I have often asked Bari (in these comments, so not sure she sees) to PLEASE, at the very least, bring onboard A FAIR & BALANCED writer!!! We deserve NOT to have to hear Weisman’s “anti Trump rhetoric” everyday!

We know Olly is SO excited to see Biden’s poll numbers rise above Trumps! We know Olly is salivating over Trump’s legal woes! But, JESUS GOD, enough already!

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Grandson with his Racist STEM Studies and GPA got into a Southern State College and the cost after assistance is $5300 Tuition. He will actually learn something in the Engineering Program and be so much lower in debt. So sorry taxpayer, you probably won't get to foot his school loans. I know, sad, but sometimes it just works where you pay your own bills.

Bari, almost anyone in mainstream America could have told you the left is the biggest threat to the Jewish population. They are the ones filled with hatred and anger at everything. Anyone is just a sound bite away from being a target. Reported that the bastion of free speech, CNN, one of their broadcasters took her family to Israel to be safer than in NYC.

Isn't it amazing the so called socially responsible people and the rich in the so called elite schools are the ones filled with hatred. They hate everything, the government, no joy, happiness, just wanting to associate with destruction and those who would kill them. Really pretty weird when you think of it. Saw two of these elite students being interviewed and they said men are not needed since women can turn their own eggs into babies. Where the hell do we get such stupid people? By the way, this is the gentle lefties who warn us about the 2000 white supremacists who are destroying democracy. Between these idiots and Zuckenberg now accused of interfering in about 300 elections, is there any wonder the ordinary citizen is questioning the entire electoral process?

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Oh my. I saw those ladies who explained why men are no longer needed. SMH.

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Men can get pregnant too, so we don't need women either, nyah nyah nyah...

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🤣

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Gee I guess my ole granny had biology all wrong. Too bad she didn't know this as she could have forced grandpa to have all those babies.

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The late PJ O’Rourke once wrote “to imagine public health care, think of a public toilet,” a quote the story about the $200k-$1.7MM toilet brought to mind.

Even better: “If you think health care is expensive now, wait until you see what it costs when it’s free.”

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As a federal retiree I shudder at the thought of government healthcare. The efficiency of the post office with the compassion of the IRS.

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PJ was a font of hilarious wisdom.

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“ …The surprising thing is that this pathological mistrust within the ranks leads not to dissension but to strict conformity. Knowing themselves continually watched, the faithful strive to escape suspicion by adhering zealously to prescribed behavior and opinion.” Hoffer

It also appears to lead to members of extremist groups wanting to outdo one another in their zealotry. The invading terrorists on October 7 were calling their parents to tell them how great they were, i.e., how many Jews they were killing or raping. The more barbaric the behavior, the more esteem from other uncivilized assholes. This applies as much to college demonstrators as it does to hamas.

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Indeed, that video by Jewish student Jessica Schwalb — with all the bizarre monotone repeat-after-me chanting by the pro-Hamas crowd — is the scariest horror movie I’ve ever seen. Literally chilling. Seeing that, I can’t help but think that it’s become an actual cult, like the Moonies or the Manson girls. That is just NOT normal behavior.

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Exactly what I meant. They're robots, but zealous robots.

It's pretty scary, alright. And pretty soon everyone is going to be Jewish. They're not gonna stop with us.

But there is a glimmer of hope: their very zeal may prove to be their undoing.

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Biden condemns both sides? I must have missed rampaging Jewish students burning flags, screaming death to Palestinians. https://nypost.com/2024/04/22/us-news/biden-condemns-antisemitic-protests-those-who-dont-understand-palestinians-in-echo-of-trump-both-sides-remark/

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Oh yes the Islamophobia that we keep hearing about. How awful. Those poor Muslims. I feel so bad about how they can’t walk around in keffiyehs

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All of that Islamophobia! Remember Muslims being dragged out of their houses and mosques burned after 911....yeah, neither do I.

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I remember those things! They happened on a bunch of TV shows produced by the lefties in Hollywood! You couldn’t find a single legal drama, cop show, or political thriller that didn’t include terrible attacks on poor, heart-of-gold Muslims during the GWB presidency.

Left-wing people “remember” that propaganda as though it was real.

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Racism (Jim Crow 2.0) and Islamophobia (etc) are the cattle calls for idiots. These tropes need to be completely rejected by everyone and those repeating and promoting them need to be kicked to the curb immediately.

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Our fearless leader has sprung into action once again to rescue our fragile democracy;

“‘I condemn the antisemitic protests, that’s why I’ve set up a program to deal with that,’ Biden told reporters…”

Pending its official unveiling expected in the coming months, the hastily assembled program in its current form is known as the ‘Jews Against Carping Kvetching Anti Semitic Speech’ Act.

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It will only take 200,000 more federal employees to implement.

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😆

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Apr 23·edited Apr 23

The JACKASS Act will probably be Biden's most effective piece of legislation to date!

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It galls me to read about Jewish kids staying away from schools that their parents - and them- support policy wise. No different than progressives from blue states fleeing the states they turned into dumpsters tax wise and crime wise through their voting. So now the progressive kids are going to come in and ruin the southern institutions?

The Jewish community has always been fine with conservative writers run off college campuses - and they thought it was fine watching businesses get torched and looted during the great Racial Reckoning of 2020. They are also fine with watching a former president get brought up on flimsy charges and having outrageous fines thrown at him. Sorry, my sympathy well has run dry.

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Which Jewish community? Like all Jews or just the ones who make bread out of the blood of Christian babies and poison wells?

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Generalize much? Religious Jewish communities have been reliably conservative for decades. We don’t need your sympathy. But I can think of a dark place where you can put it.

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Diana: I asked a Jewish friend — one of the 10% of Jews who vote the straight Republican ticket — if his Democrat relatives have woken up to what their party is becoming. No, he said. Their ability to rationalize what is happening is too powerful.

Optimistically, I will add “so far”.

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Ugh money quote “These kids aren’t drawn to old gothic Ivy League edifices, musty libraries, hallowed dark oak halls, and ghosts of dead white men,” she added.”

Great they ruined the north, learned absolutely nothing now bringing it down south. When will these idiots learn?

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The University of Alabama is nearly seventy percent out of state with a very large contingent from New York, New Jersey, Pennsylvania and Maryland. About ten years ago, I was eating at a barbecue joint in suburban Birmingham and saw a table of yankees wearing University of Alabama gear. I could hear them talking, laughing and having a great time. They reminded me of characters from my favorite show Seinfeld. I went up to talk to them and learned that they were all from Brooklyn New York, they were all Jewish and all their kids went to the University of Alabama. They flew into Birmingham every weekend for home football games and tailgated and went to the games. I asked them if they ever thought they would be sitting in a barbecue joint in Alabama, wearing University of Alabama swag and going to a football game? They all laughed and said there was no way but they loved it.

Recently, I was in New York City eating in a very nice restaurant with my family. The maitra d could tell we had southern accents and came to our table to ask where we were from and we told him Alabama. He informed us that his daughter had been accepted to the University of Alabama and he had a million questions about the school, sororities etc. They are Russian Jews. He showed me a picture of her and she was beautiful. I told him that she would be just fine.

Again, I was eating at a very nice restaurant in Miami and the waiter said his nephew was from Connecticut and going to the University of Alabama. He has even joined the Alabama National Guard. The waiter has become a pretty good buddy of mine. I trade out Alabama football tickets for Key Lime pies.

The South is not for everyone but I have yet to see a Yankee move back North after experiencing it.

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Shhh.

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RTR!

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Many proIsrael/Jewish bloggers wrote years ago about what was happening on elite colleges when it came to antisemitism. Personally I wrote about it over 10 years ago.

https://blogs.timesofisrael.com/to-the-jewish-american-community-what-is-wrong-with-you/

The legacy Jewish organizations like the ADL called us all kinds of names and distanced themselves from anyone and anything not considered progressive. They are way too late to the party.

In the words of my oldest son, now that there is a body count they are concerned about antisemitism in the US...F**K Them

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Ms Ronan Thank you for writing and ita despicable what has been going on in academia.

My dad, who immigrated from Italy in the 60s, never went past a high school education. He visited Israel with my mother a few years ago was spiritually touched by the country.

Growing up he used to tell me "is college making you stupid?" In reference to what was going on in college. I sort of brushed it aside as a young naive man but I knew he was right. Years later I see his wisdom. Schools ARE making kids STUPID and HATEFUL.

I pray change happens for the better.

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Thank you.

What I think we need to remember is that the groups you are seeing are a fragment of the student population on campus. Most children go to school to get an education so they can have a better head start in life. They spend thousands of dollars and go deep into debt for this privilege.

The real crime here is what is being done to the average student and how the administrations are allowing these hateful groups to stop anyone from getting the education they paid for.

Notwithstanding the antisemitism, if my child was a student at one of these colleges, I would be demanding my money back until the administration could provide my child with the education for which we contracted.

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I agree

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These administrators are so rancid I have no fuckin clue how they are allowed to continue. Every large donor should pull their endowments, especially the Jews if they haven’t already. This is criminal negligence of fiduciary responsibility. To be taking tuition from these students and then allow this to go on disrupting campus life is theft.

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Our elementary and high schools have spent the last 20 years spending gobs of money on programs telling students to not bully other students. Geez, think how bad our college campuses would really be today if they hadn't spent all that money. Actually, what I meant to write is the greatest transfer of wealth in this country has been from our federal government, i.e. taxpayers, to colleges.

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The anti-bullying message clearly didn’t stick either, look how they treat Jews and conservatives.

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My advisees, who saw through the nonsense, used to complain about such talks because they usurped class time. I finally said, Look, it's the Golden Rule: treat others as you'd like to be treated -- a rule found first in the Hebrew Bible, Leviticus 19:18, and then in the New Testament. (Now let's get on to more interesting topics.)

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The antibullying lessons were infused with DEI lessons teaching them antibullying means they should bully anyone who doesn't fall in line with Leftist ideologies

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Interesting point made…

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The "anti-bullying" bullshit was written and presented by Popular Kids. How could it possibly have done anything positive?

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I’ll go further and say the ADL abetted it by accommodating the DEI crowd and sucking up to the loathsome Al Sharpton. Greenblatt is a disgrace. Only the AJC is speaking up these days. Other establishment Jewish organizations are acting like their forbears in the ‘40s.

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On Taylor Swift. I know practically nothing about her, so I’m not at all qualified to judge. But I feel strongly that what is written here about her being intentionally mean to ex boyfriends says a lot about the harmful effects of the current version of liberalism. The new liberalism teaches that it’s perfectly acceptable to be mean and hateful towards certain groups, under conditions which they all agree on. There are no limits on the degree of hostility so long as the victim/oppressor narrative can be maintained.

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Great insight. Forgiveness as a valued practice has given way to revenge. It’s related to removing Judeo-Christian values from society. Like removing the skeleton and expecting the body to continue functioning normally.

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Very well put Mark. It’s crystal clear that the new left’s ideology is responsible for the steady decline we have today. I was thinking this morning also of how not that long ago, during the BLM protests in 2020, that college professors were giving course credits for protesting, for being involved in “Civic action” and “Social justice”. Their cowardice (professors and administrators) during that period encouraged what we witness now.

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